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Title: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on May 30, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
Can u rate this? Is nollywood ready for Oscar awards but dont forget that Nollywood is majoryly on Homevideos while Hollywood is mainly films
Which do you consider has an advantage over the other?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: beibee on May 30, 2008, 03:23:34 PM


nollywood...obviously a local
champion; i shan't compare it
with hollywood...

such comparison doesn't exist
in my mind and eyes...

what about you?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on May 30, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
True talk my brother i agree with you
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on May 30, 2008, 07:15:13 PM
The masters,are still the master,while the leaner always countinue to learn.Nollywood can not be compared to Hollywood.There's a big difference between them.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: judy2 on May 30, 2008, 07:44:51 PM
@ poster rice vs sand which one is better?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 30, 2008, 08:01:44 PM
Can u rate this? Is nollywood ready for Oscar awards but dont forget that Nollywood is majoryly on Homevideos while Hollywood is mainly films
Which do you consider has an advantage over the other?

Let Me Give My Opinion From A Different Perspective:

If you are comparing quality, budgeted funds for making the movies and/or films, and other aspects, there really is not a comparison at this time--but the gap will shorten as technology, electrical power,  and other things are not a problem in Africa.  But is it not amazing how far Nollywood has come even with the above problems (at least I think so).

As an African American citizen (born and raised), I really love Nollywood and Hollywood equally.  What draws me to Nollywood is that the majority of the actors and actresses are Black. We are not use to seeing that many Black stars in films in the US.  Even though it should be obvious that more Blacks will be in Nollywood movies, for it is Africa (after all), but still I am not use to seeing such a wonderful sight.   It took years for Black actors and actresses to climb up the rank of being able to be accepted and seen as more than a maid or butler to the White race in a film.  And even with our achievements, we have a long way to go.  Though Hollywoods special effects, brillance, and shine is much further ahead than Nollywood's abilities at present, it makes me feel good as an African American to see my African brothers and sisters reigning as the "stars" there.  And it fills a void within me whenever I start missing Africa, for I feel closer to it when I watch the movies (i.e. foods they eat and the sights and sounds that are different from America).  I really love Nollywood as much as Hollywood--but for different reasons!

 
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 30, 2008, 09:54:29 PM
Some of Nollywood biggest problems are Budget and NEPA, because many Nigerians never watch Nollywood films due to NEPA.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 30, 2008, 11:25:40 PM
Some of Nollywood biggest problems are Budget and NEPA, because many Nigerians never watch Nollywood films due to NEPA.

Question:  What is NEPA?  You  have not for you ask not, so I dare to ask.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 30, 2008, 11:52:38 PM
NEPA mean National Electric Power Authority, they have a new name know call Power holding, really holding the power, name changed but still the same problem.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 31, 2008, 12:27:12 AM
NEPA mean National Electric Power Authority, they have a new name know call Power holding, really holding the power, name changed but still the same problem.


Thanks Prince.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 31, 2008, 07:03:25 AM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on May 31, 2008, 01:15:54 PM
Some of Nollywood biggest problems are Budget and NEPA, because many Nigerians never watch Nollywood films due to NEPA.

u know what Prince? Most of Naija (Nollywood) Producers are Cheap, can u imagine, dey watch all these hollywood, bollywood films and get Nollywood artiste to act the nigeria versions, Snake girl (Nagin), Set if Off, Jail Break (Prison Break) these are few among many
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: kendan on May 31, 2008, 02:56:58 PM
well, pmdabor has hinted my view as concern hollywood & nollywood.
why should we compare them in the first place, their age brackets are not the same..

nollywood is fast-growing and should be encouraged by patronising them.

we, africans are found of judging  a book by the name
without going through it.

some nollywood films are entertaining,educating & interesting to watch just like
some hollywood films are good.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on May 31, 2008, 03:15:38 PM
Sure we need to encourage them but there is need for the producers to be checked by their boards and not encourate unreasonable films or unnecessary copy of Hollywood films, they should be sanctioned.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: kendan on May 31, 2008, 03:36:59 PM
luciemine,
the likes of u are needed in the industry
why not give them a tryal.
i guess they 'll sit up the more.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on May 31, 2008, 04:19:26 PM
kedan,sorry to dispnt u, i don go casting tired, i no get face and shape like model and english i no fit talk, na soso pidgin i dey blow there, i just retired as a simple Dba,
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 31, 2008, 05:10:25 PM
english i no fit talk, na soso pidgin i dey blow there, i just retired as a simple Dba,
Too much grammar is not needed in Nigerian films,
Pidgin english is the best.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on May 31, 2008, 05:31:53 PM
The very reason why nollywood came overall 3rd postion in Film making is because of the mass production of sub standard movies.the quantity of movies nollywood put to Market every week is alarming,comparing  Nollywood to other film producing Countries in terms quality production is a problem.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 31, 2008, 05:48:22 PM
The very reason why nollywood came overall 3rd postion in Film making is because of the mass production of sub standard movies.the quantity of movies nollywood put to Market every week is alarming,comparing  Nollywood to other film producing Countries in terms quality production is a problem.

I did not see that rating.  Was Hollywood first?  If so, who ranked second?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 31, 2008, 05:52:18 PM
english i no fit talk, na soso pidgin i dey blow there, i just retired as a simple Dba,
Too much grammar is need needed in Nigerian films,
Pidgin english is the best.


Question:
If pidgin english is used in Nigerian films, will it be competitive outside of Nigeria?  The reason I say that is many Americans, including myself, cannot understand it.  In addition, it is not considered proper grammar.  In foreign films, we know they are speaking Italian, Latin, French, Spanish, etc., and it is accepted; for it is an official language of a particular country.  However, will pidgin english ever be a recognizied language?  Though Africa is known for having over 300 native languages (so we have been educated to believe so), English  is the official language.  And if pidgin english will not be recognized as an official language, will the films "full of pidgin english" be taken seriously among those that judge its content and quality?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 31, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
That's the negative side of using pidgin english in Nigerian films,
it make them unmarketable abroad.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on May 31, 2008, 06:16:48 PM
That's the negative side of using pidgin english in Nigerian films,
it make them unmarketable abroad.

Yes, I am afraid that is what will happen if they put pidgin english in films.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on May 31, 2008, 06:28:12 PM
It's happening already.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on June 03, 2008, 05:31:39 PM
NO,we're just selling our slangs abroad just like the Americas.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on June 03, 2008, 07:30:09 PM
NO,we're just selling our slangs abroad just like the Americas.

The difference, Chris-jaxxmen, is that we have slang "words" not entire slang sentences.  When I try to read pidgin english mostly every word in the sentence is pidgin--as opposed to some of our slang "words" that you may see in a sentence, which was written there for a particular reason (i.e. the author thought it brought flavor for a particular reason).

Now African Americans who live in Charleston, South Carolina (which is about an hour and a half from where I live and one of the first places where slaves were brought over from Africa), use many slang words.  Last year I went down there and stopped into a fast food restaurant to ask for directions, and I really could not hardly make out anything the woman said.  Her accent, combined with the slang words she used, made it very difficult for me to understand her.  I did not want to ask her to repeat what she said a third time, so I simply thanked her kindly and got directions from another place. It surprised me to hear how differently we African Americans speak--being just an hour and half apart (though I am originally from New Jersey--not South Carolina).

I do not think Americans literally sell slang words, but many people like to pick up our phrases and many other things.  And guess what, when I was in Lagos, I tried to pick up my Ijaw relatives phrases and words and respect their culture by bowing down to my mother-in-law, which is not done in America. 
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on June 03, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
NO,we're just selling our slangs abroad just like the Americas.
by bowing down to my mother-in-law, which is not done in America. 
That's good of you, they will love you more for that.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: pmdaboh on June 03, 2008, 08:12:17 PM
NO,we're just selling our slangs abroad just like the Americas.
by bowing down to my mother-in-law, which is not done in America. 
That's good of you, they will love you more for that.

I hope so, Prince.  Many Nigerian customs seem to prompt humility as opposed to our customs here that prompt an attitude of "every man for himself".
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on June 03, 2008, 08:16:44 PM
Who wouldn't be happy to see an American bowing and kneeling down in Nigeria,
they don't see that everyday.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Nollywoodwatch on June 04, 2008, 06:16:56 AM
To help a few of you, 'Rome was not built in a day' they say; having said that it may also interest you to know that a prophet is despised in his own home; as if that is not enough we do not know what we got.

Nollywood is unique in its own and to some, i agree there is no basis for comparism.  However, we can fine tune a few things and Nollywood will stand out.

Let us rid ourselves of this imperialist thought of perfection based on rules that are tilted against your own vey success.

Nollywood is Nollywood!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: beibee on June 04, 2008, 09:39:28 AM
in essence what are you saying?

the thread says: hollywood vs nollywood...

apparently, there's no genuine basis for
comparison! like sister judy2 stated:

it'll be comparing rice with what? sand!

no one's totally condemned nollywood;
it has its fine moments of magic and i'm
thrilled whenever i find such rare moments
of magic in hollywood movies!

imperialistic what? don't be xenophobic either!
in life, views should be balanced not skewed;
in life, our ways should be 'water for fire' and
not 'fire for fire'...

like pmdaboh observed, and i follow her line
of thinking; the african culture protrayed by
africans...who could have done it better? us!

there's a snag about the nollywood movies
they don't have a world-view...so parochial;
look at other foreign movies they try hard to
explore a world-view from their limited cultural
borders...

they think commerce and they think audience
even far away...

what does nollywood think? most movies think cheap!
alaba marketers and story-stealing writers/producers
doing crazy movie-remix of foreign movies...

it's not as if this is nollywood error alone...as in 419
scam, we've come first in glorified rubbish called movies
most of the time!

to cut a long post short...there are rare good movies
produced by nollywood [in terms of picture, sound and story];
you find a preponderance of such in hollywood.

what else is left unsaid?

pmdaboh: kudos for all your fine efforts;
may you be richly rewarded!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: judy2 on June 04, 2008, 09:48:21 AM
I feel that if Nollywood is promoting our diverse culture to the outside world
it will be better than copying every hollywood movie that came out.
The editing of nollywood films are very poor this can be done correctly with even some
free softwares.The music they play in movies are pirated and too loud i can go on but
what will i achieve.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chuxxy3000 on June 04, 2008, 10:22:10 AM
nollywood sucks...
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on June 04, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
To help a few of you, 'Rome was not built in a day' they say; having said that it may also interest you to know that a prophet is despised in his own home; as if that is not enough we do not know what we got.

Nollywood is unique in its own and to some, i agree there is no basis for comparism.  However, we can fine tune a few things and Nollywood will stand out.

Let us rid ourselves of this imperialist thought of perfection based on rules that are tilted against your own vey success.

Nollywood is Nollywood!
i quite disagree with you, not all their films, just say to certain extent, my dispmnt in them is that they should learn how to compose or write their scripts not acting nigeria version of hollywood, at least some are ok, like most of tade ogidans and Adepetu Tajudeen, they are cool producers, can u imagine nigerian matured producer dont know his name produced 'THE BEAUTY AND THE BEAST', old boy u need to advise these guys, well some of the films are cool
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: beibee on June 04, 2008, 11:44:41 AM

yeah the likes of tade ogidan, tajudeen,
kilani...very few good men in the nolyywood
business.

exceptional productions by them...
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on June 04, 2008, 05:27:20 PM
I believe that nollywood is up coming and is getting somewhere.soon our movies will be recognized over the world.And as for our pidgin English I don't personally see any wrong using them in our movies,besides hollywood till use so much slngs in thier films which we Africans find it hard to understand.To Me,I think we're just tryin to selling over vocals to the outside world.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: beibee on June 07, 2008, 01:23:13 PM


go ahead...sell!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on June 19, 2008, 05:41:06 PM
Infact I'm proud to be a Nigerian Its not that easy,that shows how talented we are,Ranking amongst the World largest movie producing Countries in the world,not only that,much more respect is in deed showed to our Arstist out there!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: beibee on June 21, 2008, 12:53:10 PM



you're not far from the truth...
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chris-jaxxmen on June 21, 2008, 05:27:16 PM
And what do you think?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: proverbs6_31 on August 12, 2008, 06:13:35 PM
I totally agree.

Complaining about our limitations will never get us past mediocrity.

I watched a Virgin Nigeria Interview in which Uche Jumbo was the guest artist. As far as she could see, there was no basis for comparing Hollywood and Nollywood. I TOTALLY agree with her. Very few if any of our actors or actresses would ever get a walk-on role in a Hollywood movie. 

Creativity has nothing to do with low budget, no NEPA etc. etc. Our primary problem is dat we are so impressed with ourselves that we see no reason to step up. M-E-D-I-O-C-R-I-T-Y.

If a director wants to shoot a movie two days after issuing a script, it is clear that he does not require a stellar performance. I ask, where does the owner of a house pack his car outside his compound and TREK to his front door...only in Nollywood.

I have decided to avoid pirated copies of Oyibo films, dat is why I am forced to sift through nollywoods multiple productions for that one good movie.

No matter how often we go to the Cannes Film festival, for as long as we 'make do'...we will remain dia!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: d muguwokeup on August 12, 2008, 06:28:28 PM
Stephanie Okereke was quite good in DANGEROUS GAMBLE (a Ghanaian-Nigerian production). Her stint in South Africa and the acting Classes she took/is taking(?) are begininng to manifest. Of course the script was not quite it...some of the things said/done in that movie were so unreal. But she did good.

About Nollywood? Very few of the actors read Theatre Arts and very few of them have any plans of taking Acting Classes.

To be a Lawyer, you go to school and take exams, to be a Banker, you do the same thing, everybody takes some kind of exam, so why is Nollywood different. They should stop going to Cannes O...Cannes is not d problem. Neither is Government support or non-support.

When Nollywood is ready to take its place, it will become PROFESSIONAL, in performance, packaging, editing, sound quality etc. etc.

The sweetness of egusi soup has very little to do with what your neighbour put in her own pot. Nollywood, get di recipe right, and if dia is no money for stock-fish, do not substitute, improvise.

If you can't drive into a borrowed compound, please, show up at the front door. We don't need to follow your descent from the car, and your TREK through the gates of your home to the front door.

Cook with what you have, but cook well.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on August 14, 2008, 11:41:08 AM
I agree with u guys, i watch films a lot and i have seen so many hollywood, bollywood and nollywood films, but if our nollywood actors will bring themselves to the level that they want to learn how to do what they are doing better I believe that Nollywood will be better, most of them just want to be known and show that they are there where as they are far far away from good i still respect some like Olu Jacos, His Diva wife Joke Silva,Bimbo Akintola,Peter Edochie, Sola Fosudo, Uche Obi Osotule etc even among the new actresses like Funke Akindele,she is also good, pple need to discover what they are meant for not just that my friend is an actress and i wanna be.
Even producers should take their audition serious and not just give role to anybody in the name of i wanna give role.

There are some producers that i respect, like Tade Ogidan u need to see some of his films, is it Dangerous twins, Diamond Ring, Madam dearest, guy  some nollywood films are good so let some of these producers learn from these cinematograher and producers, Pride can do nothing but kills.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: d muguwokeup on August 14, 2008, 06:21:46 PM
Na you biko!

If Nollywood refuses to upgrade, one day, the gifted members of this team will move on.

For real!!!



Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on August 15, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
I agree with u guys, i watch films a lot and i have seen so many hollywood, bollywood and nollywood films, but if our nollywood actors will bring themselves to the level that they want to learn how to do what they are doing better I believe that Nollywood will be better, most of them just want to be known and show that they are there where as they are far far away from good i still respect some like Olu Jacos, His Diva wife Joke Silva,Bimbo Akintola,Peter Edochie, Sola Fosudo, Uche Obi Osotule etc even among the new actresses like Funke Akindele,she is also good, pple need to discover what they are meant for not just that my friend is an actress and i wanna be.
Even producers should take their audition serious and not just give role to anybody in the name of i wanna give role.

There are some producers that i respect, like Tade Ogidan u need to see some of his films, is it Dangerous twins, Diamond Ring, Madam dearest, guy  some nollywood films are good so let some of these producers learn from these cinematograher and producers, Pride can do nothing but kills.
You're really a good film fan.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chuxxy3000 on August 15, 2008, 02:15:23 PM
nollywood still sucks a great deal to me but learnt they make good money. i always want to watch a movie that challenges my intellect and deepens my sense of humor, nollywood cant provide dat but sum still likes it. thats fine but my own view doesnt matter, does it?
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: d muguwokeup on August 15, 2008, 06:30:27 PM

Broda Prince,

I sure am!
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: aseye on August 15, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
nolly vs holly is a very tough one, they can't even be compared at all, naija still have a long way to go, apart from the talent issues, there so many other factors that i affecting nolly, e.g. the major issue in naija, corruption, and then probably technology advancement, for some advanced graphical effects and so on, also talent and skills as to exist for a very good production, not that holly to is there yet but they are advancing and moving at a fast rate while nolly is dragging slow, thats why we have a long way to go and we can't catch up except...
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: Prince on August 15, 2008, 09:26:47 PM
The different is simple, Budget,

some hollywood films cost most than $hundre million $1,000,0000 to produce,

if nollywood have the same budget i don't see why they can't compete nose to nose with hollywood.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: d muguwokeup on August 16, 2008, 04:49:56 PM
Bros,

leave dat side. If we have inept producers, a silly storyline and actors who make no attempt to better their craft, nobody will invest in Nollywood. Some of the scripts are so ridiculous it is embarassing...and when the script is good, the props guy helps mess everything up.

Example: that beautiful script by Gift Asabuja (Too late to Cry). Empress Njamah's character (a big man's babe) - in a very spacious room placed her face cleanser on the TV set and stood beside it to cleanse her face.

Where does that happen. Money wasn't the problem here, the room was richly appointed.

Q: So what happened...why didn't she sit at a dressing table to cleanse her face?
Ans: so that when Ken Okonkwo entered the room, he could cuddle her from the back...???

Once more, a to-have Home Video became a let's-borrow-and-return VCD. Why would I want to have it around?

Bros, no matter how much we have, until Nollywood excels at storytelling - from the props man to the actor, to the Wardrobe co-ordinator to the actors and actresses, we will still be singing the same 'OLD song'.

'STRONGER THAN PAIN' received rave reviews in Nigeria and the U.S. because serious attention was paid to detail. The same goes with Osuofia in London. Ogunde's films were a must watch and, Tade Ogidan has made consistent impact, because he went the extra mile.

If we think that Nollywood lacks the resources, then Nollywood should close shop. The American government is not funding its Film Industry, so there's no reason for Nollywood to be a Budget item on any Government's expenditure.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: proverbs6_31 on August 16, 2008, 05:02:56 PM
Final Word.

If indeed capital is Nollywood's excuse, what excuse will the Sports Ministry give...even Jaimaca (courtesy of Usain Bolt) has won a gold medal and broken a world record.

I seriously doubt that the Jamaica's Sports Ministry has a budget as big as Nigeria's.

We have to stop making excuses...it is time to go the Extra Mile.

In this Internet age, 'Good enough' has become a sickening pasttime.

Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: kendan on August 16, 2008, 05:16:10 PM
HOLLYWOOD/NOLLYWOOD

there's no bases for comparism

africa has a unique culture and tradition which is different from western world

and i think nollywood is portraying or should portray our culture.

 i enjoy watching NOLLYWOOD epic films.
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: luciemine on August 18, 2008, 01:13:29 PM
Am still saying it, there's is no similiarity btw Nollywood and hollywood, they (Nollywood) should just grow up and stop writing unreal plays they should go for real things, they should just grow up
Title: Re: Hollywood Vs Nollywood
Post by: chuxxy3000 on August 18, 2008, 02:00:56 PM
ditto here...they make nice lulluby's though...