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Title: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on May 28, 2008, 08:26:18 PM
hello to all members.I hope each and everyone ist doing fine .I haven,t been here for some time .there are a lot of new members as i can see...hamdulillah.
how are you doing prince,olanayim,beibee,lady,diva,aseye ,bigjay...and all others?I figure..lady you are married now...?????
big hug for all new and old members from aminah in germany.
keep it going as it is going.God bless you all.
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: pmdaboh on May 28, 2008, 08:31:21 PM
Hello from South Carolina.   :)

pmdaboh
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: Prince on May 28, 2008, 09:31:28 PM
Welcome back Aminah,
I do open a thread for you here (http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/index.php?topic=3777.msg37295#msg37295), I hope all is fine with you.
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: jim on May 29, 2008, 05:25:44 PM
aminah?

are you the same person that was reportedto speak all nigerian languages? how come you use halihamdulilah?are  you a muslim?i heard olanajim talking of one aminah but i am not sure if you are the one. . . .
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: peacetee on May 29, 2008, 09:18:54 PM
hello to all members.I hope each and everyone ist doing fine .I haven,t been here for some time .there are a lot of new members as i can see...hamdulillah.
how are you doing prince,olanayim,beibee,lady,diva,aseye ,bigjay...and all others?I figure..lady you are married now...?????
big hug for all new and old members from aminah in germany.
keep it going as it is going.God bless you all.


Our Lord be Praised...Good to hear 4rm u Sis..we have surely missed u.

aminah?

are you the same person that was reportedto speak all nigerian languages? how come you use halihamdulilah?are  you a muslim?i heard olanajim talking of one aminah but i am not sure if you are the one. . . .

Well I have been here a few months and as far as I know she is the one and only Aminah...but u might need Olanajim to confirm that 4 u..
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: Matlock_Isaac Dalla on May 29, 2008, 09:25:47 PM
hello from Texas :+)
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: bigjay on May 29, 2008, 10:51:16 PM
My mother-inlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
I've missed you
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: judy2 on May 30, 2008, 02:03:26 AM
Aminah welcome back,i have been asking of you.
Good to hear that u're okay!
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: olanajim on May 30, 2008, 11:42:09 AM
Wao! Here come aminah!

Tis been a while. We are just glad that you are in good spirit. How are the kids and you sweet angel?

We really missed you.

@jim,
welcome at last. I thought you would not register. Hope work is fine?

Yeah, we have one aminah and the best way to know her is to frequent the forum.

Bigjay,
you made me laugh!
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: aminah on June 22, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
thanks for all your concern. I hope to find more time soon to come and share with all of you as unsually.I have not forgotten any of you and you prince my brother..you are just one of a kind...always caring when someone is missing for sometime.
aminah?

are you the same person that was reportedto speak all nigerian languages? how come you use halihamdulilah?are  you a muslim?i heard olanajim talking of one aminah but i am not sure if you are the one. . . .


I am the same aminah..of course... ;D.....though I do not speak ALL nigerian languages just some a little bit. I am a muslima and give Thanks to Allah (SWT) for guiding me to Islam.
nice to meet you jim-

My mother-inlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
I've missed you


small Jay....e bi like sey you no dey give up ...abi????... ;D ;D ;D ;D


Wao! Here come aminah!

Tis been a while. We are just glad that you are in good spirit. How are the kids and you sweet angel?

We really missed you.

@jim,
welcome at last. I thought you would not register. Hope work is fine?

Yeah, we have one aminah and the best way to know her is to frequent the forum.

Bigjay,
you made me laugh!


olanajim my brother..how you dey?-a dey miss all your wisdom and debth.
my family ist fine,our youngest just turned 7 months and crawls around trying to dismantle our house.she is such a darling.everyone is crazy about her.
please take good care of yourself .
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: Prince on June 22, 2008, 02:22:55 PM
Good to hear from you,
Please keep us inform.
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: olanajim on June 24, 2008, 07:50:43 AM
I am happy to read fron you now.

Happier that the little angel is now the toast of the family.

And happiest that you are in God's hand, smiling, making progress.
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: GolDeNRollY on June 24, 2008, 09:23:40 AM
welcome aminah
good to know everything is ok
thks for checking on us
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: bigjay on June 27, 2008, 11:44:39 PM
Hmmm, GRolly the super hero :D
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: olanajim on June 28, 2008, 06:02:59 AM
How super?
Title: Re: aminah came through
Post by: bigjay on June 28, 2008, 11:07:07 AM
like the green lantan and bat man
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 28, 2008, 11:16:43 AM

beloved sister aminah...
it's so happifying to know
you're very much hale and hearty.

we love you and we will keep asking
after you...just keep it real.

nice learning the dainty daughter
of yours is already doing her own things;
please everyone in the family must make
room for her!

best wishes sister aminah!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 28, 2008, 11:28:59 AM
Bj
tell me about green lantan and bat man.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on June 29, 2008, 12:21:59 AM
Hm, I guess you didn't read comics as a kid
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 29, 2008, 04:37:45 PM
I am not a fan. I only read Ikebe Super.

What does aminah got to do with the bat man?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: babazinnih on June 29, 2008, 04:50:49 PM
My mother-inlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
I've missed you

Pls aminah do all in your power and I can borrow you some of mine if need be to keep our little angel away from vampires like bigjay o...........lol....Good to have you back aminah, our one and only nigerian-german....Have a nice Woche
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 29, 2008, 05:02:23 PM
My mother-inlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
I've missed you

Pls aminah do all in your power and I can borrow you some of mine if need be to keep our little angel away from vampires like bigjay o...........lol....Good to have you back aminah, our one and only nigerian-german....Have a nice Woche

pele o baba..bawo ni nkan?
thanks for the offer ... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 29, 2008, 05:18:10 PM
Wao, I support baba. Please get the angels out of bj sight.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on June 29, 2008, 10:07:20 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Deeran on June 29, 2008, 10:14:30 PM
Welcome Aminah.
Good you're back!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 09:10:33 AM
So how and where did aminah spent her holidays? I hope you haven't gone to Tibet?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 30, 2008, 09:22:13 AM
So how and where did aminah spent her holidays? I hope you haven't gone to Tibet?

haven,t gone anywhere yet...I would love to travel though .it wouldn,t be tibet cause Ayo is too small for that .she just turned 7 months.my husband said if I want I can travel when he is off and he would take care of the baby but I am still ---feeding and apart from that miss her already when I am away from her for a couple of hours...so I cannot travel anywhere without her untill she is older.since I have travelled so much in my life I guess a little break wouldn,t hurt.what we do for the moment is taking trips to france or other places.we might fly to england to visit friends too.this are things one can do with a baby under one year easily.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
You surely know how to enjoy...

But isn't it unfair to our prince that you were in france and didn't say hello even if you can't see him?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 30, 2008, 11:10:33 AM
You surely know how to enjoy...

But isn't it unfair to our prince that you were in france and didn't say hello even if you can't see him?

france is a big place.....I go to strassbourg which is just 1 and a half hour from heidelberg...
I think prince lives in paris..that,s far from here.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: chuxxy3000 on June 30, 2008, 12:26:59 PM
i live in paris too...the one close to mile 2...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 30, 2008, 12:34:46 PM
i live in paris too...the one close to mile 2...


lol....
I just remember mile 2 now...I used to have one little fulani boy there  whom I loved so much.we always play together wheneever I got there to change bus.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 30, 2008, 01:56:49 PM


paris not far from mile 2?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on June 30, 2008, 02:56:10 PM
Yes o, in Chuuxy's Kingdom
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 30, 2008, 03:01:12 PM


did he come from
gwara-gwara kingdom?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: chuxxy3000 on June 30, 2008, 03:06:48 PM
i live in paris too...the one close to mile 2...


lol....
I just remember mile 2 now...I used to have one little fulani boy there  whom I loved so much.we always play together wheneever I got there to change bus.


what kinda playin is that? didnt knw u prefare 'em uncircumsised....
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 30, 2008, 03:11:31 PM


come again?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: chuxxy3000 on June 30, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
u want me 2 cum again? wat gave u dat impression, my good man?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 30, 2008, 03:19:24 PM


i mean: what did you
just say?

are we discussing circumcision here?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: chuxxy3000 on June 30, 2008, 03:23:19 PM
she said she was 'playing' with a fulani boy at mile 2...and i said seems she love 'em uncircumsised...dnt u get it?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Tukur on June 30, 2008, 03:30:50 PM
hello to all members.I hope each and everyone ist doing fine .I haven,t been here for some time .there are a lot of new members as i can see...hamdulillah.
how are you doing prince,olanayim,beibee,lady,diva,aseye ,bigjay...and all others?I figure..lady you are married now...?????
big hug for all new and old members from aminah in germany.
keep it going as it is going.God bless you all.


Welcome on board the great queen aminah of our Forum . 3 gbosa 4 you gbosa! gbosa!! gbosa!!!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 05:34:18 PM
Gbosa! Gbosa!! Gbosa!!!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 05:36:18 PM
@aminah,
well next time you go to france, ring him up and say hello...

Chuxxy,
I know that paris. It is not near mile 2. It is near Ojuelegba under bridge..

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on June 30, 2008, 05:44:12 PM


chuxxy3000...
i just refused to get it!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 07:08:59 PM
But you claimed to know the place...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 30, 2008, 07:12:04 PM
i live in paris too...the one close to mile 2...


lol....
I just remember mile 2 now...I used to have one little fulani boy there  whom I loved so much.we always play together wheneever I got there to change bus.


what kinda playin is that? didnt knw u prefare 'em uncircumsised....


look at you...and where your mind is taking you to....Lord have mercy.
the boy was a little boy of 3 years and he used to always be there with his parents begging for money.
he was somehow a different and special child.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on June 30, 2008, 07:28:39 PM
You mean the fulani kids that roam the street clutching passers by as they beg for money?

They are still around...

Unfortunately, their parents won't let them be adopted.

Govt is evacuating them sha!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on June 30, 2008, 07:37:05 PM



I disaggree on the adoption thing you just brought up.rather should someone try to create a kind of other help for the fulani families begging on the street which in the long run will benefit the children.forcing people to give away their children is cruel to me.
even if the parents are living on the street in bad condition they might still love their kids and the kid will surely love the parents.


Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 01:24:13 AM
olanajim & aminah - I found ya here!  You wanted to know more about me.  So my book is open feel free to ask what you might.  I'll answer what I can and what I can't...well maybe some other time.

Just a warning olanajim, just like every other woman, I am full of complexities, that's what makes me who I am, therefore, truly knowing me is a difficult task :D.

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 08:27:54 AM
Every human being is complex in a way. You can bet that it is that complexity that make us interesting species. If two people are exactly alike and simple, the relationship will be boring and uneventful...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 03, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
hi islandgirl....how are you and your kids doing? I noticed you added your picture this morning and even though it,s quite small I can see that you have a friendly face.

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 09:43:59 AM
Friendly and lovely.


And you aminah? How is sweet angel doing?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 03, 2008, 10:11:53 AM
pele ola,bawo ni?se oji dada? se alafia ni? angel ( malaika ?? ) mi kekere wa dada... ;D....
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
olanajim & aminah - I found ya here!  You wanted to know more about me.  So my book is open feel free to ask what you might.  I'll answer what I can and what I can't...well maybe some other time.


Hey sweetie, hw about some real smooth love from the Love Doctor 8)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: vil on July 03, 2008, 11:13:21 AM
J
pele ola,bawo ni?se oji dada? se alafia ni? angel ( malaika ?? ) mi kekere wa dada... ;D....


whats the meaning of this?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 03, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
J
pele ola,bawo ni?se oji dada? se alafia ni? angel ( malaika ?? ) mi kekere wa dada... ;D....


whats the meaning of this?

I answered olanajim by greeting him,asking him how he is  doing,if he woke up well and is healthy.then I answered him that my little angel is fine since he asked after her.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 03, 2008, 11:46:24 AM


great to know sister aminah and hers
are doing just great...

my warm regards to that little malaika
of yours.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
@aminah,
Alihamdulilah. Inu mi dun lati mo pe malaika wa lalafia.

@vil,
it is a private thread. It doesn't break any rule. Tag on!

@bigjay,
you are indeed a leopard. Or is it "cheetah?"
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 12:55:20 PM
Holy Mallam,
I'm a love machine, and I do my rumble in the bedroom.
Ain't nothing wrong with offering IslandGirl some real smooth loving 8)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 01:37:09 PM
ho! hohoho!!!!!!!!!! no wonder, parents keep their daughters away from you!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 01:41:31 PM
Yeah, they keep them away cos they want me... 8)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 02:42:54 PM
I am taken bigjay so sorry.

The kids and I are doing well thank you for asking aminah.  My 20 year old is the manager of a Starbucks store and lives about 25 miles from me.  17 year old work for lots of different people doing lawn work, landscaping and such and lives just down the road from me.  He came by for a visit last night and helped me catch chickens LOL!  My 16 year old is about 1800 miles away at his dads house for another couple of weeks.  Talked with him last night and he is doing well.  This is the very first time he has ever been to his dads and I think he expected a whole lot more, maybe more difference but has found out life is pretty much the same.  The youngest 2 are here with me and doing well too, sleeping still right now but I will have to remedy that here very soon as I am to be at work in about 20 minutes.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 02:51:48 PM
who wants you?

A ngba omo adie lowo iku, oni ohum fe lo jeun lakintan!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 02:56:15 PM
A ngba omo adie lowo iku, oni ohum fe lo jeun lakintan!

You are going to have to interpret for me olanajim.  I speak and write a little French but that's it. And the interpretation website I use at work doesn't have your language so I can't even use that when I get to work which is supposed to be in 5 minutes - ahhh I'm late again, see what y'all do to me!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 03:25:34 PM
It is for bigjay, not you! It is yoruba proverb which simply means that we are protecting chicken from death, but she insists on going to gabbage site for feeding...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
So you are trying to protect him from himself?  Am I getting that properly?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 04:10:47 PM
Exactly! I tried to give him a good publicity, but he was destroying the little I could do by callimg himself sex machine, or is it love machine?

Anyway, why do you go into humanitarian work? What motivated you to go into ministry?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
Exactly! I tried to give him a good publicity, but he was destroying the little I could do by calling himself sex machine, or is it love machine?

=)) LOL!!!!
HM, pls don't kill me with laff
@ IslandGirl,
I know ur taken but I'm sure we can all manage (me, you, him... ;) )
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 03, 2008, 04:49:04 PM


what of sex?

islandgirl: that's what this forum does
to all; now i've got a meeting to attend
in about two hours...

i wonder if i shan't get there late!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 04:56:33 PM
If you are late, just tell them bigjay tied you down.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 05:04:17 PM
That'll be a very good excuse
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: chuxxy3000 on July 03, 2008, 05:21:40 PM
hope ur not late for ur meeting man
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 05:45:13 PM

Anyway, why do you go into humanitarian work? What motivated you to go into ministry?

I have been raised in the church and my favorite services were when missionaries came to talk of the places they had been and the people they encountered.  When I was a young teen I had thought I would go into missions right away and was want to join YWAM (youth with a mission), but I met my first husband and that all changed, I got married right after high school (I finished a year early so I was just 17), had babies right away and life just took me a different direction.  But God instilled the gift of mission work in my 2nd son.  He has been to Mexico 4 times now and each time came back wonderfully changed by God.  I thought that my long again dream of missions was passed to my son and it would not be mine.  But in November when my pastor announced there was going to be a 2 week mission trip to Liberia to work with orphans I immediately heard God tell me that my 3rd son and I were to go - so did my son because we looked right at each other.  Since then I have worked with a life coach to find my purpose and mission.  He worked with me to develop my mission statement.  It wasn't something that was just random we went over everything in my past and found everything was building and preparing me for missions at this time.  I have started looking more at the past few years of my life and the theme of Africa has been thread through the tapestry of my life so I believe I am going to end up there in Africa - doing something in the mission field.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 05:48:52 PM
@ IslandGirl,
I know ur taken but I'm sure we can all manage (me, you, him... ;) )

Manger trio, eh? Not into such things ;)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 05:50:06 PM
If you are late, just tell them bigjay tied you down.

LOL!  I was only 57 minutes late today, so I'm getting better!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 06:00:22 PM
Islandgirl,


I found that motivating. I always believe that no matter how long it take, the seed in you will sprout though it may die if not well nurtured.

To be on safe side, you can keep the seed for the right weather, though you shall be hungry...when hunger beat you hard enough, you would either eat it or sow it...

A wise traveller, who hope to have life oe fulfilmement must learn to sow, when to sow, where to sow, and how to reap the fruit of his labour...

In many thing, it is better late than never, though some lateness are nothing but disaster...

Culled from My unpublished memoir
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 06:01:47 PM
Well, being a missionary is good, Islandgirl, but Africa is changing...

Did you know that?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 06:45:06 PM
I have been raised in the church and my favorite services were when missionaries came to talk of the places they had been and the people they encountered.  When I was a young teen I had thought I would go into missions right away and was want to join YWAM (youth with a mission), but I met my first husband and that all changed, I got married right after high school (I finished a year early so I was just 17), had babies right away and life just took me a different direction.  But God instilled the gift of mission work in my 2nd son.  He has been to Mexico 4 times now and each time came back wonderfully changed by God.  I thought that my long again dream of missions was passed to my son and it would not be mine.  But in November when my pastor announced there was going to be a 2 week mission trip to Liberia to work with orphans I immediately heard God tell me that my 3rd son and I were to go - so did my son because we looked right at each other.  Since then I have worked with a life coach to find my purpose and mission.  He worked with me to develop my mission statement.  It wasn't something that was just random we went over everything in my past and found everything was building and preparing me for missions at this time.  I have started looking more at the past few years of my life and the theme of Africa has been thread through the tapestry of my life so I believe I am going to end up there in Africa - doing something in the mission field.

Please IslandGirl, can you bring your mission to my house? :)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 07:50:35 PM
This is becoming more like a curse!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: bigjay on July 03, 2008, 07:55:17 PM
Holy Mallam, leave me alone o...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 08:07:09 PM
Ok. So how is your car now, bigjay?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 08:26:23 PM
Well, being a missionary is good, Islandgirl, but Africa is changing...

Did you know that?

I am trying to learn all I can.  What do you mean by Africa is changing?  For the better, for the worse? I suppose that is all subjective.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
Please IslandGirl, can you bring your mission to my house? :)

My life mission statement: "Empower families in crisis to build safe, secure homes, overcome obstacles and persever through challenges."

I don't see how visiting you would fit into that statement. :)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 03, 2008, 08:30:03 PM
We have more than enough pastors around some of them are better than those abroad. But, in Africa, missionary is no more about spreading faith and winning converts.

It is about solving their problems...
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 03, 2008, 08:37:43 PM
So, living what one preaches not just preaching it - feed the poor, take care of the widows and orphans - correct?

I find it much easier to live my faith and let people see Christ through me.  Woman of action, I suppose you could say.  Words mean nothing if people don't see you live them. 
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 03, 2008, 08:55:24 PM
islandgirl.....i find your plans interesting.I would like to know how you visualize your mission work there and what exactly you wish to achieve there in liberia?

We have more than enough pastors around some of them are better than those abroad. But, in Africa, missionary is no more about spreading faith and winning converts.

It is about solving their problems...


sorry to say but I have noticed that it is very much about making money.....
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 03, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
I hope bigjay leave IslandGirl alone and stick to Diva.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 04, 2008, 03:08:44 AM
@prince,
diva is too much for him. But he is trying to see whether IG, would be as raw as butter. I guess, he is disappointed now because I heard him grumbling for NO SHOW.

@aminah,
yes. It also include making money. But not every missions do that. The good ones are very few.

@islandgirl,
if you can do what you planned, you will succeed. But alot of challenges await you if you want to live there. You would have to prove your faith to remain in the mission. Another thing about mission is that the key words today are EMPOWERMENT, MIRACLE AND BREAKTHROUGH!

If you are good in any of the three, you will be a hit in this part of the world.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 08:35:31 AM
@ aminah this first trip will mainly be a "first" experience for me, a taste so to speak.  The vision for the group I am going with (btw, www.orphanreliefandrescue.org) is to work with orphanages that are is such poor condition the government doesn't recognize them and since the government doesn't recognize them they cannot get help, so their goal/vision is to help them become sustainable, first by feeding and helping with building facilites they need, latrines, showers, dorms, wells, etc then by teaching animal husbandry and agriculture, also mircro loans for starting businesses.  They are also working hand in hand with the government to find the directors who are only using the children through traffiking and selling food that was given to the children, sexual and physical abuse, etc.  then moving the children to homes where that is not occuring.  They have several job openings and I really want to work there but the couple who started this NGO (also friends of mine from high school) want me to experience it first before deciding and also they are not yet set up for families to be a part of the organization and since my younger two would definitely have to come with me and I am a single mom it would be very very difficult.  But this organization may not be where I am to be.   There is a Bible College in Uganda I may attend first and then see where God is leading.  Basically I am just waiting for doors to open and walking through them in faith.

@ prince,
bigjay seems harmless enough, although he has been silent today, I didn't mean to hurt his feelings, he just had to know there is a line and I will not cross it.

@olanajim,
God is in control and I will go where He leads, I will walk through the doors He opens and accept those He closes.  God has blessed me with a whole lot of strength, tenacity, endurance and persistance (not stubborness - LOL!) and since they are gifts from Him I will do my best to use them to honor Him.  I love to show others they have it within them to achieve things, allowing them to find their courage to try new things and be successful, it lights me up.  I know at times people look at their lives and what is around them and only see discouragement, heartache, hardship, etc, but the most important things we all (including me) have to remember is that first and foremost we are Gods children and He loves us dearly, two He will NEVER leave us or forsake us and three whatever challenges and obstacles face us He is there to guide us through them so that we are overcomers!  One of my favorite says is, "If He brings you to it, He'll bring you through it!"



Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 04, 2008, 10:35:27 AM
I am convienced you are filled with good intentions@ islandgirl .
it,s just that I have come across some  christian aid workers in africa before which influenced my opinon .
I came to notice that many have no single idea about the culture of the pepole they came to ,,help,,.at times people are so pre occupied with their urge to help others that they miss to notice that what they think is best to others might not be what these people consider best for themselfes.
there is still a bitter taste concerning white  missionary work in africa....which has very much  to do with the history of missionary work.
the next thing is that white people (let me use the term of colour to simplify here) most time have not the insight of what is really going on .they approach issues with their white mind....of course with good intentions at times....but often they don,t know at all what goes on undercover. another thing is that I came to think that many types of aid for africa is rather disableing the continent instead of healing it and if at all ,that it,s more like treating the symptoms than the roots of the problems.
I hope my words don,t offend you.


@ olanajim: yes there are a few good ones but any outsider will notice that churches and christian tv channels have become a lucrative buisness and  becoming a pastor and raising a church a ,,profession,,not a calling for so many people in nigeria.

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 04, 2008, 10:43:21 AM
The vision for the group I am going with (btw, www.orphanreliefandrescue.org) is to work with orphanages that are is such poor condition the government doesn't recognize them and since the government doesn't recognize them they cannot get help, so their goal/vision is to help them become sustainable, first by feeding and helping with building facilites they need, latrines, showers, dorms, wells, etc then by teaching animal husbandry and agriculture, also mircro loans for starting businesses.
IslandGirl please bring your mission to Nigeria,
Nigeria really need it at the moment,
FG is much concern about the oil money and not his people sufferings.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
Not offended at all.  Please tell me your thoughts of my intentions and how they can be better.  I am here to grow and learn at first because I plan to marry a Nigerian, but if I can learn more to be better in my mission than all the better!!!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 10:58:45 AM

IslandGirl please bring your mission to Nigeria,
Nigeria really need it at the moment,
FG is much concern about the oil money and not his people sufferings.

I have mentioned somewhere, (I get lost as to where I post what), that the theme of Africa seems to be threading it's way though my life.  In April there was a story in my Island newspaper of a Nigerian man who lives here and is married to an Island resident 6 months a year and in Warri the other 6 months.  He does peace work on the Niger Delta.  A film crew from America is putting together a documentary, "Sweet Crude" and has visited many times, well in April, he was taking them to his villiage to interview the people when they were detained.  You may have heard about it, it was world news.  He was back on the island a few weeks ago and was honored as a Giraffe Project Hero and we saw some of the documentary and he spoke of things there.  What was most inspiring to me was the hope I saw and heard in the people, even though their land is being taken and they are given nothing in return, their environment and ways of living are being destroyed, yet they have hope.  I was so touched and moved by it.  I have so much to be thankful for in comparison to what I saw in that short movie clip, yet the joy I saw far exceeded my own.   

It may be that I will end up there in Nigeria, Prince.  Only God knows.  He did not bring me to meet my fianc? for no reason at all, there is purpose and direction in everything. 
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 04, 2008, 11:00:09 AM
Nigeria is like any other country in the world,
we have good and bad people.
But the bad one's are few,
but unfurtunate the whole world focus on the bad one's instead of looking at the positives side of Nigeria.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 04, 2008, 11:01:51 AM
Islangirl,
seriously, you have a clue to what the locals want. But, going there would open your eyes to the partial reality and not total. Why? Because, the govt officials that would receive you would make everything "normal" with cusmetic treatment. The real orphans may not benefit. But if you work with govt and existing orphanage, it would yield something positive.

Mind you, expect both negative and positive outcome while working toward the best. That way, you would have been prepared well for the events ahead of you.

Out of your goals, what I found very interesting had to to with agriculture and empowerment. These are people's need. Since you are heading to liberia, you have know that they are just coming out of years of civil war, with thousands of youths hopeless, and uneducated. Victims of rape, orphans and ex-kid soldiers walk the street scraping for living. Your mission can be hugely successful if you focus on the goals. Agriculture is unattractive in west africa, yet, arable lands are all over...

@aminah,
indeed, that is the truth. In fact, they are turning into education and sports now...

The way out is to return to boardroom. When houses of God become centre of commerce, trouble loomed. I understand jesus forsaw this happening when in symbolic gesture, he distrupted the business activities of wagers in the temple. I wonder why this are allowed in Nigeria!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 04, 2008, 11:03:03 AM
What a name "Giraffe Project Hero"
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 04, 2008, 11:06:10 AM
Where did you get that?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 11:11:58 AM
What a name "Giraffe Project Hero"

I guess I should have explained.  The Giraffe Project is a great non-profit here on my island and one of the things they do is recognize people they consider to be hero - those who stick their necks out for humanity and take risks.

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 04, 2008, 11:13:03 AM
Ok,
Now i understand the neck part of it.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 11:13:26 AM
I REALLY have to go to bed now!  I just enjoy talking with y'all so much and you're all up now.  I'm going to be about useless tomorrow - LOL!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 04, 2008, 11:13:48 AM
Islandgirl,
I'd advise you complete your liberia mission before coming to Nigeria. You would have been prrepared for greater project.

Our population and education sophistication would make your liberia work a childplay...

People here already know more about missionary and are educated. So you have to add a bit of creativity to it unless you are coming for Healing crusade, which in itself would demand that you are at least on same level if not better than what we have on ground.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 11:16:02 AM
Here's there definition from their website.

Who are Giraffe heroes?

They're men, women and kids, and they're from many races, religions and backgrounds?all sticking their necks our for the common good. They're truck drivers, students, retirees, artists, waitresses, doctors, homemakers, business people and teachers.

Since 1982 the Giraffe Project has found over 900 of them, then told their stories in national and local media, and in schools ? inspiring others to take on the challenges they see.

Giraffes are working on many different issues, from poverty to gang violence to environmental pollution. One element that's common to all of them is that they lead meaningful lives. Win, lose or draw they're living fully, giving their all. They know why they get up in the morning, why they do things that may be scary and difficult but must be done if their cause is to be served.

Our criteria for choosing Giraffes focus mainly on two questions: ?Is there significant risk involved in what this person has done? And is it for the common good? In particular, the ?sticking their necks out? factor means there?s an ongoing edge to what Giraffes do?something?s at risk for them. People who are fulfilling their job descriptions don?t make it through the Giraffe choosing process?the person has to be going above and beyond. People who are just famous, talented or gorgeous don?t make the cut either. Giraffes also tend to be involved in long-term efforts they?ve initiated, not one-time actions.

Since 1982 the Giraffe Project has found over 900 Giraffes.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: Prince on July 04, 2008, 11:16:39 AM
I REALLY have to go to bed now!  I just enjoy talking with y'all so much and you're all up now.  I'm going to be about useless tomorrow - LOL!
What a fuuny world,
It's 12pm noon here, while you guys are just going to bed over there.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 11:18:39 AM
Islandgirl,
I'd advise you complete your liberia mission before coming to Nigeria. You would have been prrepared for greater project.

Our population and education sophistication would make your liberia work a childplay...

People here already know more about missionary and are educated. So you have to add a bit of creativity to it unless you are coming for Healing crusade, which in itself would demand that you are at least on same level if not better than what we have on ground.

If there is a healing crusade coming your way, let me know!  I'll bring my son!  Actually he is the one who plans to come with me to Liberia.  He was born with resistant, recurrent bi-lateral club feet, 8 surgeries to date, with one more before we go to Liberia, hopefully the last as he is 16 and done growing.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 04, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
I REALLY have to go to bed now!  I just enjoy talking with y'all so much and you're all up now.  I'm going to be about useless tomorrow - LOL!
What a fuuny world,
It's 12pm noon here, while you guys are just going to bed over there.

Normally, I would be getting up in an hour to go for my run, so it's LONG past bedtime.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 04, 2008, 11:20:25 AM
I am glad you aren,t upset with me...thank you islandgirl.
anything I can tell you is definitly only from my personal stand or viewpoint which was shaped through my experiences.

the first thing I have learned is that there is something like a drum beating in ones soul...it eather beats or it is silent.
what I mean is that the skin is not the issue but the inner spirit of any person.
there are people that have affinity towards asian culture ,some towards indian ,some towards african ...and so on....it,s something one cannot see ..just feel.

it helps if you have such affinity though it,s not a must .

assuming I was in your shoes....I would ( as you are already trying to do )  gather as many informations as I can,
liberia for example has been undersgoing a lot of difficuilties.the country has not at all recovered from the cruelties nor the past political settings.
many are afraid to go back from the camps the escaped to in other african countries .they do not trust the peace.
so I would start studying the history,the causes,the tribes,the culture,the thinking....but not just from the american or europian imagination or reasoning.
if I had to go there particularly I doubt I would take my kids along cause apart from the school issue...there is a security issue as well.

to learn a little of the main local dialects helps too.many africans appreciate highly when a white person trys to speak their language and would be more willing to open up to an extend.

another thing is that you should try to see things with african eyes.as you can partly see on this forum....there are differences in thinking .sometimes it,s hard not to judge....
respect ,tolerance and patience are key words.


what exactly would be your work in the orphanages? would you work directly with the kids?
likewise olanajim I am finding the agriculture projects interesting though....this might just be a little drop on the hot stone...
looking at  the so called globalisation and the mafia-like behaviour of big food companies .....


Islandgirl,
I'd advise you complete your liberia mission before coming to Nigeria. You would have been prrepared for greater project.

Our population and education sophistication would make your liberia work a childplay...

People here already know more about missionary and are educated. So you have to add a bit of creativity to it unless you are coming for Healing crusade, which in itself would demand that you are at least on same level if not better than what we have on ground.


yeah right...healing missions are the thing in nigeria ....
big show...pastor superstar...then people throwing there clodges and wheelshares in the air.....
anyway...some work...some are just show

alright
I REALLY have to go to bed now!  I just enjoy talking with y'all so much and you're all up now.  I'm going to be about useless tomorrow - LOL!
What a fuuny world,
It's 12pm noon here, while you guys are just going to bed over there.


sleep tight dear..tomorrow is another day.....it.s 12.17 midday here in germany
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 04, 2008, 11:22:12 AM
That is great! Go to bed. When you wake up, you would reply others!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 04:18:26 AM
what does TBD mean? you typed it as answer to beibees question concerning why your man remained unmarried so long.
I also have difficuilties figuring out what you mean by the answers about the costs of family reunion and cost for the marriage.family reunion process here in germany requires money...and time since nigerians internationally  have a bad reputation about using fake documents or been married already .have you found out how it is done in your country?maybe it,s easier for you people since he already studied in the US.


I consider it fortunate that he isn,t the oldest son of the family....his responsibilities would be less...
maybe you can talk to his oldest sibling on the phone to indroduce yourself and for respect reason.
if he supports his living with farm work in senegal, he is not making too much money...I am doubtful he would be able to finance anything unless he has some savings from the states left or other means.

since you mentioned that it,s only pictures you know from eachother why not using webcam (there are internet cafes in africa that have them too) and chat like that.pictures are somehow not always telling the truth and mimics and gestures tell more.
I am still at awe that you seem to be completely convienced that you want to marry someone you have never seen ...not just go and meet him..no...right away marry him.
wow...and wow again..... :)


aminah - moved your questions from the other thread over here to answer.

I am not real sure what you mean by costs of family reunion.  The wedding is just going to be him, me, & 2 witnesses.
Cost of marriage - I am unsure of the costs, from the Embassy website we must bring a copy of our birth certificate, apply for a banns and post the banns for 15 days before the wedding.  He was in Dakar this week getting more information from a notary.  I am also going to be calling the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
For here in the US - I contacted the State Attorney Generals office to ask what needs to be done to assure that a marriage in Senegal would be recognized here.  They told me what needed to be done, which isn't anything different than what was on the embassy website.
Maybe I should talk with his siblings.
He does have some savings and also has a credit with airlines for a return trip here. 
I don't own a webcam, would rather not have one.  He asked me once when he was living here, if I had one he would have purchased one.  I jokingly told him if I had one then I would always have to "prettied" up for him.  We didn't discuss it after that, but he left back to Nigeria a couple of weeks later. 
You are not the only one in awe, I assure you.

I am arranging for a phone conversation between him and the Nigerian man I have mentioned elsewhere here whom is known to be a man of integrity.  He will tell me what he thinks of my man and we will move forward from there.  My man did not make reservations at the church because I asked him to hold for a bit, that he needs to talk with this man so that my family will come to the same conclusion I have already come to - my man is a good man, and give their blessings for us to be married.


Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 06:31:02 AM
I think you are doing your best to ensure everything is in order.

But that webcam is a good idea. Even if it is used once.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 02:35:06 PM
Thank you olanajim.

I suppose I should purchase one.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 02:55:20 PM
It is worth it. At least the two of you can chat live
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 05:19:03 PM
problem being time zones right now, when he can get to computer and when I am home don't seem to ever line up.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 05:28:35 PM
What about weekends?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 11, 2008, 05:29:50 PM


aminah came through is turning
to islandgirl coming through...

let's all keep vigil for islandgirl!

sister aminah: what did you actually
come through? i never got to ask or
find out till now.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 05:31:24 PM
you're not going to let me out of this are ya olanajim :)  weekends would probably work, even with my continual busyness.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 05:34:14 PM
@beibee,
this is an interactive thread. It is a soap opera.

@islandgirl,
it is all for you. So you can have the best communication.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 05:37:39 PM
thank you kind sir :)
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 05:45:07 PM
I am not sir. I am still young! 99 year, not bad!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 11, 2008, 05:51:00 PM


and do the purchasing fast too!
i may get to meet you via it.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 05:58:23 PM
see I knew it wasn't completely unselfishly y'all wanted me to get one :), maybe this weekend I will leave the island and purchase one
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 05:59:48 PM
So you can't get it on the Island?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 07:20:56 PM
not on the southend where I live. 
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 07:31:35 PM
It sure must be an isolated area. Or is it because it is an agrarian community?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 11, 2008, 07:38:01 PM


i was just kidding...
i don't own one myself!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
It sure must be an isolated area. Or is it because it is an agrarian community?

Being a bit isolated has its advantages!  It's also close enough to civilazation, just a ferry ride and 25 miles to Seattle.  Ferry is expensive though ($18, more if I take kids with me) so when I make a trip, it's for many things.  Unfortunately, just like the rest of the world, agriculture is going by the wayside so there are not a lot of farms, but have noticed a rise in people raising their own vegetables and fruits, so maybe farming will make a come back.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 09:32:21 PM
Farming is needed today at the time world is having food crisis.

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 11, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
exactly why one of the things i am doing when going to liberia is to teach agriculture and animal husbandry.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 11, 2008, 10:13:50 PM
Great dream!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: beibee on July 12, 2008, 10:11:14 AM


what kind of farming?

subsistent farming?
ot mechanised farming?
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 12, 2008, 04:24:27 PM


aminah came through is turning
to islandgirl coming through...

let's all keep vigil for islandgirl!

sister aminah: what did you actually
come through? i never got to ask or
find out till now.


aminah came through ---means... aminah was passing by.
I posted that some time ago just to greet people and let you all know that I came through for a moment to check on you all since during that time I had kind of vanished from the forum for weeks .

Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 12, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
@ beibee

subsistent farming
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 12, 2008, 06:58:06 PM
@ beibee

subsistent farming

maybe the people in question could be assisted to produce the ind of product that can be traded to europe and america via fair trade system.
I do buy their products here in germany ,even though they cost more than other food items.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 12, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
eventually the hope is that once they become self-sustaning then they would be able to sell at the market in Monrovia, I think long term it may work to being across borders, but my understand is that it is VERY expensive to do that.  I'll know more in November.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 13, 2008, 09:30:39 AM
why not contact FT federation or international FT organisations?
to sale in monrovia is cool and a start but it means they are very limited and dependent .


Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 13, 2008, 11:34:43 AM
Indeed agriculture pays but where is the land to cultivate? Most of the lands are in the remote areas. That is why many people don't farm.
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 13, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
What is FT?

the situation in Liberia is a grave one, there are MANY orphanages that the government wants to just go away.  They don't even meet basic standards to qualify to receive any help.  we will be there to help those orphanages, bring them up to the basic standards and then beyond so they are self-sufficient.  The wars didn't happen overnight and its not going to be an easy overnight solution.  Many who left Liberia when the war began and started a new life here in the US are receiving personal telephone calls from the President of Liberia requesting they come back.  One man who is going with us is such a person.  He has been appointed by a group of 15 men who live here in Washington to go and see the country and bring back to the group what he sees as the needs of his people. 

For self-sustaning farming it is possible to do what is called container gardening which is becoming very popular here in the major US cities.  Another is rooftop gardening - although that won't work there in Liberia because one needs a flat roof and because of the rainy season flat roofs don't work. 
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: aminah on July 13, 2008, 10:03:03 PM
ft -fair trade
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: IslandGirl on July 13, 2008, 11:57:32 PM
ah should have know that one!
Title: Re: AMINAH CAME THROUGH
Post by: olanajim on July 14, 2008, 01:39:54 AM
Hmmm. Mission Liberia must surely be a fantastic mission...

The people sure need it.